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Does it matter what new clutch plate to get for 4 speed getrag

I see FCP euro have Sach kit for $245 US = $350 AU
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https://www.fcpeuro.com/products/bmw-cl ... -k70009-01

or a local supplier $240 AU but says for E34 535
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https://clutchdirect.com.au/products/v1 ... xsQAvD_BwE
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I don't know for sure, but I'll throw out my .02

The bottom one appears to be for a twin mass flywheel and self adjusting. I'm not sure it would work correctly. And if it's a picture of the actual product it appears the splines are different.

Not all clutches fit all bellhousings on M30s, but I think the removable one for Getrag 4 and 5 speeds will take any of them.
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this clutchdirect mob are also indicating a E28 528 clutch kit for $150 AU

THEY REPLIED- SUPPLIER NO LONGER MAKING !!

https://clutchdirect.com.au/collections ... 2568n-1197

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81 528i +3.5ltr - auto - restoring
86 525e 5 speed manual- dd
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Autohausaz are indicating a Sachs kit for $240 US

https://www.autohausaz.com/pn/3000034010

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Schmeidmann have BMW original clutch kit fo $690 US

https://www.schmiedmann.com/en/bmw-E12/ ... -9-069-010
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77 528i -4 speed manual getting rusty
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81 528i +3.5ltr - auto - restoring
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Now those should fit with no issues.
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I received the following email and web site links form Sachs
thanks for your enquiry for a SACHS Performance clutch.

In response to your enquiry:
For your BMW there´s a complete SACHS Performance clutch kit available - have a look in our onlineshop:

You can find the right Pressure Plate here:
https://www.sachsperformance.com/en/clu ... ver-999765

The right Disc can be found here:
https://www.sachsperformance.com/en/clu ... isc-999867

The right releaser for your clutch kit is the following (should be always replaced when changing the clutch):
https://www.sachsperformance.com/en/clu ... 3151231031

That SACHS Performance clutch kit is able to transmit at least 590 Nm and provides everyday suitability at the same time
(no "on/off"-clutch). You can easily replace it 1:1 against your old clutch and it will fit to your flywheel without any further
modifications.

With the above links, you can comfortably order directly in our onlineshop. While the order process, the onlineshop will
automatically calculate the individual shipping costs etc. In general, all parts are in stock and can be shipped immediately
to you.

If you´ve any issues with the order process, you can also send us an email with your order and we´ll send you an order
confirmation by email.

If you have any further questions, please don´t hesitate to contact us at any time.

Kind Regards from Hamburg, Germany :-)

Sebastian Kirdzik


S-Performance GmbH Managing Director
Buxtehuder Str. 112b Bodo Schürmann
21073 Hamburg

Phone: +49 (0)40 3999 2118 District Court Hamburg
Fax: +49 (0)40 3999 2119 Regist.-Certificate: 136474
EMail: info@sachsperformance.com VAT-ID: DE275815907
Web: https://www.sachsperformance.com
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so if Sachs online store are charging approx 820 Euro (350 + 400 + 70) for their full kit, and FCP Euro and Autohauz are charging approx $240 US for a Sachs kit, does that mean the the FCP and Autohauz are an inferior quality kit ( rebadged maybe) or is Sachs just taking a huge profit margin from naive buyers?
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77 528i- 4 speed manual
77 528i -4 speed manual getting rusty
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It's changing somewhat, but traditionally the manufacturer has been the worst place to buy something, meaning highest priced. I think they're set up to make things, not sell things at retail which is kind of an inconvenience to them so they make sure they turn a profit on them.
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1981 528i, 3.6, Recaros and more. Project
1998 328is, quick and efficient, but not satisfying
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Sachs are saying ( via email ) the one they sell on the online store is a high performance one.
What I have offered you is a SACHS Performance Clutch Kit. As the name sais, it is a performance clutch kit being stronger and more durable.
The Disc has a different coating to the OEM one for more transmittable torque. That is where the price comes from. It is made in Germany, has a high quality standard and is all in all the best option for a car. It is very close to the OEM Clutch Kit in feeling and fits with the OEM Dual Mass Flywheel.

There is a break-in period of roughly 1000km but afterwards it should last you for a long time!

We are happy to answer any further questions you may have.

Best Regards from Hamburg, Germany

Sebastian Kirdzik
74 525 auto
76 525 - 4 speed, LPG and holley carb- restoring
77 528i- 4 speed manual
77 528i -4 speed manual getting rusty
79 528i auto - a SA car?
80 528i auto - ready to relicense
81 528i +3.5ltr - auto - restoring
86 525e 5 speed manual- dd
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so I ended up ordering the OEM kit from FCP Euro
74 525 auto
76 525 - 4 speed, LPG and holley carb- restoring
77 528i- 4 speed manual
77 528i -4 speed manual getting rusty
79 528i auto - a SA car?
80 528i auto - ready to relicense
81 528i +3.5ltr - auto - restoring
86 525e 5 speed manual- dd
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