Differential, or...?

[T.Hanson]

I'm hoping for replies to diminish the odds of the worst case scenario. On the freeway, not so much as a squeak for a warning to ignore, a loud grinding noise came from the rear end. Whatever it is kept making the noise for the ten mile tour through neighborhoods, to get to the barn. (It was ten degrees, I picked making the field over waiting for the flatbed.)

A look at the differential revealed minor leaking around the area where the drive shaft connects. Also, a shiny circle on the shaft, perhaps polished by an exhaust clamp. The oil is topped up, not dry.

For detectives, the lowered suspension had previously allowed contact, noticeable, on a steep parking lot hill. Like one of those raised speed bumps. Not at speed, violent, but it made noise underneath.

Is it a toss up the differential innards have gone crunchy, universal joint, half shaft bearings, axles ? I.e., only jacking and listening (in the spring) will tell ?

Or from being able to limp home, ten miles, same noise,...maybe it's not the differential, to require replace, rebuild ?

I hope, I hope.

[pappentl]

Did the differential mount let go? Is the diff sitting lower than usual?

...tom



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Subject: Differential, or...?

#AOLMsgPart_1_00d02699-d9ff-4228-994e-f00123593a34 td{color: black;} I'm hoping for replies to diminish the odds of the worst case scenario. On the freeway, not so much as a squeak for a warning to ignore, a loud grinding noise came from the rear end. Whatever it is kept making the noise for the ten mile tour through neighborhoods, to get to the barn. (It was ten degrees, I picked making the field over waiting for the flatbed.)

A look at the differential revealed minor leaking around the area where the drive shaft connects. Also, a shiny circle on the shaft, perhaps polished by an exhaust clamp. The oil is topped up, not dry.

For detectives, the lowered suspension had previously allowed contact, noticeable, on a steep parking lot hill. Like one of those raised speed bumps. Not at speed, violent, but it made noise underneath.

Is it a toss up the differential innards have gone crunchy, universal joint, half shaft bearings, axles ? I.e., only jacking and listening (in the spring) will tell ?

Or from being able to limp home, ten miles, same noise,...maybe it's not the differential, to require replace, rebuild ?

I hope, I hope.









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[Blaise]

Hard to say based on what you know so far.

Could be a wheel bearing (crazy high torque to replace). Could be a half shaft issue, but you would probably have a compromised boot before it failed.

Or it could be inside the differential. My jeep's differential started getting louder and louder, so I am rebuilding it now. I could not believe the damage that I found (previous owner neglect).

Spider gear:


Carrier bearing:


Hope I did not scare you with those carnage photos:)

I am setting up the new gears now.

[T.Hanson]

Thank you, I think the mount is good, or not the source of the noise. I have a spare differential, which is what kept me from choosing to wait for a flatbed, one block at a time.

I guess having to service, replace a few large items every thirty five years isn't all that unexpected. Just strange there weren't any sneak preview leaks or sounds.

[Peter Florance]

Thank you, I think the mount is good, or not the source of the noise. I have a spare differential, which is what kept me from choosing to wait for a flatbed, one block at a time.

I guess having to service, replace a few large items every thirty five years isn't all that unexpected. Just strange there weren't any sneak preview leaks or sounds.

Maybe change the fluid and check for metal bits. I find these diffs to be pretty strong.

[Pierre]

You can't make any educated guess withiout at least raising the rear wheels off the ground to, at least eliminate the possibility of a wheel bearing first because it's the most likely culprit.
It may even be the brakes.
10 degrees? Yikes. We hit 88 today. It's pretty disgusting for January. But 10??? I would park it and wait till spring too.

[T.Hanson]

Great ! I'll take wheel bearing.

Even if it isn't, I can think it is, until I find out different in two months.

Anyone for loose muffler clamp ?